2Cor. But then, in April 2014, he resigned in disgrace after admitting to multiple affairs and a pornography addiction. That lent itself to a very youthful, crazy, wild lifestyle. The problem has been evident that many raise there pastors up as idols. Michael just want you to know the Mark accusing you and positing other nonsense is not me the long time lurker/poster on this site named Mark who goes back many years with you. Believers need to be warned at the outset that this is the pile of dung that they are buying into when they open the door to Calvin and his disciples! Peace. Hugh said, And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well!, You hath better harken to the truth and backeth down thine misplaced anger at the messenger of the Lordyou son of a motherless goat. And somewhere along the line, Coy slipped right back into his old life. "The law enforcement agency makes [its] decision on whether to bring the case to us," says Ron Ishoy, a spokesman for Satz. Some of these churches/groups that are so antithetical to anything that could possibly be considered ecumenical may in fact be unable to discern wheat from chaff. Bob Coy, founder of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale in Florida who resigned as senior pastor over moral failings in 2014, has been accused of molesting a girl when she was 4 years old and into her teens. You had better get pants with a stronger zipper if that is the case. And, arent mega-churches equipped with a mega-staff..and, therefore, dont mega-pastors have access to an ample accountability network? At its core, this is not a CC failure or a megachurch failure or a Moses-model failure. Which is precisely why Im questioning you. OK, here is my Luther disagreement we have different tastes in beer. Whats the big deal Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa is not in Costa Mesa. And dont forget that one of MacArthurs disciples, Francis Chan, is constantly preaching that American Christians are too rich and need to give it away to the world, as part of his works-based errors concerning the Gospel. in fact, when the idea is brought up, Jesus denies he has a reign here on earth. I did ask Bob about the female dress attire in the early 2000s I was told, we dont want to turn off a new believer by offending them. It can be if you want it that way here, after all, it is your blog. Please. One day I will explain to you what the means. this Calvinist preterist teaching is a rotting festering leaven in the body of Christ today!, Wow Ill let my reformed friends know that theyre not really saved because Hugh said so. Maybe I can help you with the math 42 months = 3.5 years 1260 days = 3.5 years. And even if complaints arose, Smith's answer was often to give wayward preachers second and third chances. All Scripture is self-attesting and being Truth, requires our unreserved submission in all areas of life. Any ideas? MLD wrote: I havent brought up Luther once. Bob knew all the more well what he was doing, there wasnt some demon forcing him into this action. 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. The truth is we dont know very much and the only thing we can do is acknowledge what little facts we have here on earth: 1. What I remember is that BC was supposed to speak at Fidels church and never did. for those of us in the cheap seats, it might be wise to be prayerfully patient & turn the hobby horses out to pasture for a bit. no venom) ..I know too well the disappointment of which you speak. I actually felt bad for that new Pastor who was the Youth Pastor because He was not ready. Let there be no hint of rejoicing in this sad day. This is a Christian blog? Not only has she been publicly shamed, in front of her friends, family and all whom she held dear, but she has been shamed by a husband who found her lacking and inadequate. Do you think God is happy with Newnham right now? I knew you could. Diane Schuler, aka Aunt Diane, died in an accident. Lets see what you have. Coddington was known for clean, elegant designs combining old school with what would come to be known as the "Boyd Look". MacArthur isnt a wolf in sheeps clothing, hes just a self-righteous pious a-hole from the pulpit, but at least he tows his own line in his personal life. This thread will be closed shortly so I can have an evening to do other things. BTW My Grandmother the mother of 12 and Grandmother of 33+ and a bunch of great grand kids was the most Christian woman I ever knew and she was a devout Catholic so was Mother Teresa for that matter. If I was a Calvinist I would still punch you in the blog-mouth with your silliness. Its a wonderful way to live, Lorenzo. Truth and reality may arise for all involved. Coy sued Fort Lauderdale in 2003 after the city tried to block Calvary from placing a sign with a Christian message at a Christmas light show. What is the biblical model for dealing with leaders who blatently sin? "We had a big party at the casino girls, cocaine, alcohol, the whole thing. Was any reference at all made to the transistion. And the leak from the board was no doubt insurance against a coup detat of bob-loyalists attempting to unseat the floundering-shell-shocked and in charge for the very first time board. 5. As for your other questions well the answers from my point of view are complex and mixed. [3] [4] [5] His media ministry, which includes radio, television, and digital media was subsequently terminated. A woman told Coral Springs Police she had recently learned something terrible: A South Florida man had molested her daughter for years. Those in moral authority are more accountable than the flock. Its not slander to point out severe doctrinal errors. This will blow up to be a lifetime deal on Coys part. The less-er donors got a buffet lunch. Let this be a sign to you, that if by this time next year calamity has not befallen you, to teach you to not malign Gods work and kingdom! I completely agree with Michelle @175. Barbara #625. The language of this episode smacks of a scenario like the one I just described. As I understand it, it was Bob Barnes who made the issue known to the board. findre, This is exactly why we are to rely on God and not in man. Thank you for sharing this hard news, Michael. But it appears extramarital affairs may have been one reason. Pastor Bob Coy left with his family. May the Lord forgive each one of you, as well, who are rejoicing in the fall of a beloved preacher. I disagree with him on many points, but I will not slander him. They had plenty of time to tell their people and they already had prepared for their family meeting. We have gone through this struggle around here. The reformed/protestant groups picked up on it, since they were catholics and knew nothing else. Your turn. Gods speed in healing for all. Documents show that Coral Springs cops sat on the accusations for months before dropping the inquiry without even interviewing Coy. he returns to earth 2.) You do not know amillennialism from duck squat. Barbara. Too bad Christians dont look beyond a mans reputation to the truth. One of the gals from Saturday Night live attended- I forget her name and they really used that to their advantage-she was mentioned. NOBODY forget that because yes i kniw he did something bad but god doesnt deserve you walking away from him for a mans mistake. Clearly some felt the news should come out right away rather than one last sunday morning coverup cum offering and they made sure that is exactly what happened. Have you wrote Bob ripping him for his sin and asking for proof of repentance? Tell me one Christian that doesnt consider Jesus Lord and I will tell you they are not a Christian. "The media ministry of the Active Word that distributes his Bible teachings through radio, television and digital media has also been suspended. The fact of the matter is, this doctrine has probably been used by Coy over the years to strike at others. Read his book about the Kingdom. I still recall your attitudes when Jimmy Kempner got exposed for solicitation of a woman for sexa woman who turned out to be undercover officer for the Tustin Police. my point exactly. Nobody should jugde him he is human NOT god. . I cant agree with this statement at all. I pray that he must show true repentance and fruit before he is ever allowed to preach from any pulpit, and I pray that process is not rushed along as we often have seen happen in the past with other fallen pastors. Irenaeus taught dispensationalism in the 2nd century. In his later days, he began registering cars that were essentially completely custom fabrications as antique automobiles, avoiding major emissions restrictions and tax liabilities. Unless you will claim that Revelation is not part of the Bible. In 2007, Christianity Today spoke to numerous Calvary pastors across the country. if not you would be guilty of bearing false witness. Early life, education and early career. If they were told that , it is no secret where they are. God can bring restoration- please Lord, help the Coy family. Phoenix Preacher 2023. I do have issue with his lies, spending money on mistresses, and exposing his wife to STDs. Coy, who has also been divorced from his wife, is reportedly looking into the prospect of starting a new church again despite the controversy. didnt they come to fort lauderdale to start calvary together? The problem with fame and fortune is that the temptations multiply a hundred fold, so dont be surprised if you hear of more men of renown to be found out eventually as to their secret sins. Part of HuffPost Religion. Stay up to date with the latest Christian news! He died on the cross as sacrifice for our sins according to the Scriptures. They have been taught by well-intentioned, thoroughly prepared, astute ministers who take their roles seriously. Mark Davis and Clay Hecocks wives were very good friends and I am sure together decided enough was enough from what they knew. 10 The inhabitants of the earth will gloat over them and will celebrate by sending each other gifts, because these two prophets had tormented those who live on the earth. Dustyno issues, sishugs right back to you. 0. hat happened to Sharon? For many people, restoration mistakenly means the duration before the erring pastor is behind the pulpit again. Im not one to split hairs but The first meeting place for CC was in a funeral home behind Albertsons in FT Lauderdale, now it is true they moved for a bunch of years to Pompano but only with temporary zoning variances off Gateway but were deigned permission to a become permanent church location, therefore they never settled there. Im off to bed. Bob Coy may not have been a good pastor but he was a great Bible teacher (amalekites, perizzites, canaanites OH MY!) Neither Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, the movement's flagship, nor the Calvary Chapel Association returned messages from New Times seeking comment for this story. note the opening line Amillennialism is the mainstream Christian end-times theology. You may act almost Muslim like around women like you say but there are a lot of ways the devil can knock you on your can too. To "avoid substantial injury" to Coy's former employer Calvary Chapel according to the court file. As time goes on we grow and are sanctified as we choose to do those things that are right and lament the things we do wrong. And his sermons have been the same blame the Christian, God is blameless.. stop whining sermons.. for what , 20 years? At Smith's church, "you could come in jeans, and it didn't matter what your hair looked like or how long your beard was," says Thumma, the Hartford professor. "They do what they feel is right based on the evidence they have.". Sometimes theres love and we become lovers for a time and sometimes its just sex for fun and enjoyment, so face the facts men by nature are not monogamous! By that account we are all guilty, except it would seem for MLD. On the third day He arose bodily from the dead, ascended into heaven, where, at the right hand of God the Father, He now is our High Priest and Mediator. Thank you, Nonnie for your prayers for my children! One of the best you could find in a mega church. Andy, I will not play your game. The two faced aspect of all of this. The case was closed in 2016. Put your trust in the One who will not fail you. Plus, listen to Greg Laurie talk about the situation on Pastors Perspectiveclearly the moral failure wasnt that Coy was driving solo in the carpool lane. My point was that I do not put myself in a position to be tempted. I still attend CCFL because I believe that I can help some of the younger members. His net worth has been growing significantly in 2020-2021. Now, explain the literal meaning of the chain. If it continues and endures it is Gods church and bigger than any one man to the consternation of the circling vultures of which this website is replete with! I thought it strange not to hear his signature cartoon voices coming over the clock radio in the morning until my daughter told me today what had happened. Glory(Pride) Gold-(Obtaining personal financial advancement from the ministry) Girls-(giving in to self serving sexual pleasure from Women) I think that older men with less testosterone can dodge these bullets. Opinion: I've been on the field for two football tragedies. I hope What I did say is held by 80% of the Church today. Pastor Bob Coy of Calvary Chapel accused of molesting 4-year-old In other news: It has been confirmed Goonies 2 is happening! I am deeply stunned, sickened, hurt and devastated about this news. Does Satan have a body? I never liked him .he was a smooth talker actor on stage and the bigger he became the bigger and cockier he became. Devastated, I left my home church because of Bob Coys candid sermons that are always delivered with been there done that backround..I,m on my knees for him and his family knowing that what Michael before me said is all true..very sad. How I have seen just over the last two days, about where a person goes for Bible interpretation, will make all the difference. That is actually their responsibility. I guess it can happen to anyone to be star struck. you did well last night, you were being played, and you still shown like a bright light in the dark! Psalm 34:17 The righteous cry out, and the Lord hears them; he delivers them from all their troubles.18 The Lord is close to the broken hearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit. May The Lord continue to bless you in your growth as you discover your gifts and calling and use them for the furtherance of his kingdom, my prayers are with you and CCFL, that God would be in complete and total control as he ordains those he has called to lead in this difficult hour, for we know that God is on the throne and he never fails! It appears that the fate of mega church superstars happens eventually when they start believing their own press.If it had been me I would probably never have lasted as long. . I think that would be helpful to know. He quit the cocaine and strippers, began training as a preacher, met his wife Diane, and moved to South Florida. Not so, true Christianity is to be able to answer the question truthfully that you and your ilk are continually asking when it comes to other peoples sins, but your cowardice and hypocrisy shows, as you deviate the question with empty hallmark pseudo wisdom, well heres one for you whats good for the goose is good for the gander! Is it like a day or is a day like a 1,000 yrs? Orthodoxy (doctrine) is inseparable from Orthopraxy (behavior); they are components of the same. That may have been accomplished through small home groups, but his magnetism and charisma kept a need for a larger building. So, how much is Bob Coy worth at the age of 66 years old? All sin is equal. Im more sympathetic to the people like Anonymous above than to Coy. For the gates of hell will not prevail against my church, thus saith The Lord! He had other associate pastors go publicly in front of the congregation after their infidelity. When, oh when will the sin sniffing and salivating over someones moral failurecome to an end? His gray goatee is neatly trimmed, and he wears a light-blue plaid shirt and expensive jeans. I love the nuts. This will be my last ever participation in one of these exchanges. Church, youve accomplished nothing through this. Note that MLDs hateful 695 doesnt even consider my 694, about unnecessary strong verbiage. MLD, I do believe that satan is bound with a chain of some sort. You didnt have the integrity and honesty to answer my question, and now you want me to answer yours! Lorenzo, My lying mouth? When you are dealing with human resource issues at a corporate level there are legal and illegal ways to speak of a persons departure from the company. awesome. He was a star everywhere he went..a total fool and idiot in my book. The p0rn habit is insatiable, gotta treat it like a heroin addiction and view it as just as dangerous to you or it will eat you alive if you want to be married and be a father to your kids and if you want to remain a public pastor teaching against such things. My anger and frustration with Bob today is finally slipping toward thoughts about those poor souls who have to listen to 3 services of unrelated sermons in order to make it to an afternoon meeting where sadness and disappointment will rule the day. That said, of course we all pray for his restoration to God, for his marriage, his family and those of you who entrusted yourself to his leadership. Why would they allow or risk the public seeing this crime scene being removed and altered? I lean towards Calvinism but not even close to Dominion-ism. I forgive him and i still love him. He threw away everything, his family, his vows, his integrity, his reputation is forever damaged..why??? , ; - , - . They didnt have to. Jesus transforms, not a pastor. What are you talking about? Disgusting! they will mention Israel 100 times for every mention of Jesus Christ. The reference is not to Rev 5 But to Isaiah 11, which speaks of the millennium. We all have the propensity. Adultery is a common thread throughout the 66 books. As spring breakers poured into Fort Lauderdale to bong beers, he set up "The Recovery Room" at the Jolly Roger motel, where he offered live music, first aid, and of course Evangelical literature. BTW, what gauge chain do you think it would take to bind satan? MLD is too old to be tempted. Well, what happened to the $ since there was never a new sanctuary? Ive experienced firsthand how these women throw themselves at him and its disgusting.. I knowI can tell when youre chewing me out. You hate the answer. Bummer. There may be a comment from a woman soon that may be of interest. Now lets help him get back to his feet. we his congregation, and his family, are the ones that need to deal with it yes or no? I actually feel sorry for Bob. Bob did it. The article noted that in total at least eight pastors, staffers, and volunteers in Calvary Chapel's network in the U.S. have been charged with abusing children since 2010.