What an extensive list. If you think that the KJV is inspired, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 2. [6] Adam Fannin, the lead preacher at SBC's Jacksonville satellite campus, refused to acknowledge the authority of Jonathan Shelley, another Texas New IFB pastor who took over SBCFort Worth following Romero's resignation. Was so funny reading it, one thing that struck me is if an outsider were to read it theyd be incredulous, wondering how we stuck with it for so long. Any ways God is good and can use any church to reach anyone it all depends on if you as an individual will receive his free gift of salvation, because God is that powerful. Let God tell you who He is in the letter He wrote for you and youll find a love you cannot comprehend. I truly believe the IFB pastor and wife was just doing their job. Im pretty sure it WAS/IS alcohol because the bible talks alot about not getting drunk with wine.also take a little wine, etc. Haha, thanks for the confirmation! That is contrary to Bible doctrine for a pastor. Every proposition presented for action of the church must be introduced by motion of one member and seconded by another. Even when the family goes on vacation, we go to church. We believe that any form of homosexuality, lesbianism, bisexuality, beastiality, incest, fornication, adultery, and pornography is a sinful perversion of God's original intent for a physical relationship between a husband and wife. I know you scoff at my pity but there it is. 3 So practice and obey whatever they tell you, but dont follow their example. And, aside from the ones you mentioned that are truly sinful (i.e, #17, #53), and the ones that are just inaccurate (i.e, #13, #16, #35), some of these are interesting picks to end up on the list. That was an extensive list, and sooooo true! They are as tragic as they are true and yes the IFB movement went ver overboard on many standards and traditions. If your eyes quickly scan down to see if a fellow female church member is wearing the acceptable skirt, dress or koulotts outside of church, and Heaven forbid shes wearing capris or pants!! People are people and free to choose their own way. I wonder sometimes if the pastor didnt hit one of your sins and instead of getting you under conviction, you just got angry. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith around mutual interests or ministry opportunities, but one church cannot exert authority over another. THE PARABLE IS NOT A GUIDE NOR DID JESUS SAY THAT ITS A MAP ON HOW TO DEAL with a wayward child!! The pastors name is Kevin Draganac. If you see buses full of kids of all ethnicities and backgrounds coming to worship together, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. (John 3:36; Romans 14:4-12;2 Corinthians 4:2; Titus 1:9), Local church membership is restricted to individuals who give a believable testimony of personal faith in Christ and have publicly identified with Him in believer's baptism. JUDAH. If you believe that the wine referred to in the Bible is nothing more than fruit of the vine (AKA grape juice), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 26. Romans 5:8 is about salvation. [4][5], A split in the New IFB occurred in January 2019, after Donnie Romero, pastor at Stedfast Baptist Church-Fort Worth (SBC), resigned after it was revealed he had hired prostitutes, smoked marijuana and gambled. WebBaptist beliefs are seen as belonging to three parties: General Baptists who uphold Arminian soteriology, Particular Baptists who uphold Calvinist soteriology, and Independent Baptists, who might embrace a strict version of either Arminianism or Calvinism, but are most notable for their fundamentalist positions on Biblical The New IFB began with Steven Anderson of Faithful Word Baptist Church in response to perceived liberalism in other independent Baptist churches. Also, #55 there has only been and will ever only be one perfect person. If you confuse the KJV with the KJB, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 3. If your pastor begins his sermon by reading one verse then yells and pounds the pulpit for the next 30 minutes, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 17. There are a lot of IFB pastors out there like that, the majority of the ones I sat under were like that, they just want to see you do better. sad stuff particularly the responses from obviously brainwashed bible folks. That being said, I just want to warn the author about injecting too much of his own agenda into these posts. You should tithe, yes, but do not neglect the more important things. Each church is autonomous, or self-governing, and contains all human authority for leadership within its congregation. Please read the rest of the website and my story rather than just judge me. We believe his power is supernatural, yet limited; and that he cannot act without the permission of God (Job 1:6-12; I John 4:4). We had no money. Thats The Holy Spirit speaking to me. Seeing 2 brothers in Christ debase a conversation (be it one or both parties) to snide remarks, tasteless jabs, and condescension as a form or response, makes us all look bad. We just look for a biblical church to go to. We dont believe if you get rid of all the sin in your life youll be a completely healthy person. To train up a child does not mean to beat him with a rod, although there BE TIMES that a spanking becomes necessary, but NEVER out of anger. We told to get married. I have no position or opinion of this Im truly sorry for those who were mistreated and sorry if bitterness is hurting you now. We believe that man was created in the image and likeness of God, but that in Adam's sin the race fell, inherited a sinful nature, and became alienated from God; and therefore man is totally depraved, and, of himself, utterly unable to remedy his lost conditin (Genesis 1: 26- 27; Romans 3: 2 2-23; Ephesians 2 : 1-3, 12). 3 1/2 years ago we were addicted to marijuana, cigarettes, alcohol, and pills. )(yikes), because I never want to put that church building and hierarchy that rules it above Christ. That makes no sense. The IFB church I attend preaches cleaning the heart not performing works. We believe education in the world is good, but the teaching of evolution needs to be addressed if the individual is a little kid as false doctrine. This is an assumption.. the Bible teaches us to prove and test matters. As I sit under preaching, sing worship songs unto the Lord, pray earnestly, read my Bible as often as I can, and search through commentaries to help me gain a deeper knowledge instead of surface reading, I KNOW Im drawing closer to God in a personal relationship with Him. If you believe that secular psychology is worldly/sinful, but dont think that other areas of medicine are OK, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 45. Forgiving someone has nothing to do with whether or not you believe that Jesus died for their sins. They simply do not know and probably lack the ability to do the research, but Cyril I. Scofield was a Confederate soldier who left his wife and two children and later remarried another woman. This is the same pastor who said, you can come and let us tell you how you can know how you can know for sure how you can make Heaven your home. If the people in your church are truly humble, forgive easily, and believe that everyone is worthy of grace, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. The school was run by Lester Roloff, an independent fundamental Baptist preacher who broke from the Southern Baptist Convention in 1954 and founded a series Even if you cant tithe now you can still serve in some way and later when you are able to improve your financial situation they will get your tithe. No, but I wanted to send the rest of my life with him. I forgave through the example of Jesus. A Baptist church may choose to associate with other churches of like faith 28 Outwardly you look like righteous people, but inwardly your hearts are filled with hypocrisy and lawlessness. Same pastor who says to his congregation I love you, we all love you here.and we will not judge you. I dont think having two revivals a year is a bad thing as they word states we should continue to get together as believers. Like I said, Im more than happy to have a discussion. From a biblical standpoint, Jesus is the ONLY mediator between God and Man and only Jesus can intercede us. N/A I am also against body piercings as well. They have distinct responsibilities and operations. 29. Very few men are qualified to be pastors using your interpretation of scripture. If you think that the hymnal in the pew is inspired by God, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 23. We believe that the clear message of salvation is repentance toward God and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ (Acts 20:21). My pastor has never taught that man can forgive sins. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. We affirm without apology the doctrines frequently identified as the Fundamentals of the Faith, which include the deity, virgin birth, sinless life, substitutionary death, bodily resurrection, and imminent return of Jesus Christ. Who are the Free Will Baptists, and what do they believe? I must put it in Jesus Christ. The bitterness argument has been answered many times. If your church encouraged you to make your own decision about becoming baptized, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist. That is the only sin that cannot be forgiven. You can be saved and live however, but there will be consequences the saddest consequence of this behavior is your relationship with God will be Hindered greatly or little. I personally fall under Southern Missionary Baptist, and literally had questions in regards to my recent visits at an IFB church. (Colossians 1:18; Matthew 18:15-20; Acts 15:22-21; 2 Corinthians 8:1-5, 19, 23), All born-again believers have the privilege of direct access to God. I do not know if laugh or cry , almost 30 yrs involved in this , Im still a Christian , I serve in my church , Ive learned more since I left the movement , I am happier more devoted Christian than when I was manipulated to go out soulwinning , bus driving ,Sunday school teaching etc. You strain your water so you wont accidentally swallow a gnat, but you swallow a camel! If you think that the title Pastor is the synonym for the man of God this is not the case in the church I go to. I am unsure if she was already a member before her husband passed or not. I talk to her about my faith she talks to me about her faith. It didnt raise red flags for me. We believe that the Lord Jesus Christ was raised bodily and that He ascended to Heaven and is now exalted at the right hand of God, where, as our High Priest, He fulfills the ministry of Representative, Intercessor, and Advocate (Acts 1:9-10; Hebrews 9:24, 7:25; Romans 8:34; I John 2:1-2). If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 31. WebWe believe that Jesus gave Christians two ordinances: The Lords Supper and Baptism. 2 Corinthians 2:10 is a guideline not a command. In thinking back, I see that the church was filled with tiny idols like that. Scofield came to know Christ AFTER all of that, so I dont hold that against him. Do you find them so humorous ? I mean yeah, theres some truth to a lot of this. I would of rather take the word literally than follow the world. Also, we lived in a free Appartement with food stamps. Fellowship, guidance, and encouragement of the local church family are essential for believers to maintain an unwavering testimony and a meaningful life of service. A friendly fellowship group for members of local New Testament Independent Baptist churches. Is that what the great commission tells us to do: Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and send lost loved ones to an IFB church so that they might be saved (DHV Don Holt Version). Ive read all the comments posted so far, but I dont fall into many of those categories as an IFB and Ive been an IFB for almost 13yrs now. Out of over 30 , maybe 5 in 25 years N/A My birth mother is a Catholic she didnt raise me. I wish you had broken up your last paragraph into multiple paragraph everything runs together. He says he isnt saved but is open minded and is at least asking questions. No, Baptist churches are not sinless because they are filled with forgiven sinners. I truly dont understand this one, ha! If you think that three church services per week is the minimum and that you must attend all three every week (Sunday mornings, Sunday evenings, and Wednesday evenings for Bible studies which I will assume) I cant agree with this, you must attend at least one. But it cannot be pleasant carrying all that bitterness around with you every day. You ALWAYS have your KJV Bible with you at church, and turn to numerous verses each sermon. If you question if youre truly saved or not when youre having trouble accepting that giviing 10% of your gross income is a direct commandment for all Christians and if you dont give it, youre under a curse. Christ is the o nly head of the church (Acts 13:1-4, 15:19-31, 20:28; Romans 16:1, 4; I Corinthians 3:9,16; 5:4-7,13; I Peter 5:1-4). I respond to IFB jabs, sometimes that requires a jab back. Of course these cultural attachments border on the cultic, no doubt are legalistic, and hopefully will disappear eventually as the old guard depart their bondage in this life for Glory! The membership All people need to do is humbly ask for one. I agree some are or at least seem to be what most consider legalistic. We only care when we see new faces in the church, whether guests or new members. Using guitars in church is too liberal That was not the case at the church I grew up in when the last pastor I had when he came to Mountain Church of Christ when he first arrived (which is instrumental though membership is small). He perhaps worded somethings poorly perhaps, but he is completely turned off by your attitude and responses Steve. Is to help you find a bible believing church, an Independent Fundamental Baptist Church, that seeks to serve and honor the Lord Jesus Christ. N/A No one knew about the marriage except us. Again its too legalistic. Yes, believers disagree, theres nothing wrong with that. This is very good. I was sincerely disappointed. Wow! My church members are filled with sin and give account to God alone. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church: 30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones. 29 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. Or preferring the KJV? You might be an independent Fundamental Baptist if. If you think that reading a version of the Bible other than the KJV is a sin, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 18. 21 And when you swear by the Temple, you are swearing by it and by God, who lives in it. I dont believe they bought our loyalty, because we werent of any good investment. Praise God because us getting married and having faith we both grew. I found myself laughing at quite a few of these because they are things that I used to believe. I can tolerate the other bits that go over board as long I am believing the word and get correct non compromising bible teaching. The IFB ostracizes people when they leave. My jabs are defensive in nature. I loved him, but I hated the way he treated me. If you believe that using guitars in church is too liberal, yet you listen to patch the pirate who uses guitars, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 14. I have scriptures on my walls that are from other versions. (1 Timothy 2:1-6; 1 Peter 2:5,9; Revelation 5:9,10), The local church is mandated by God to practice two ordinances. Attending all three, in my opinion, is optional. 15 What sorrow awaits you teachers of religious law and you Pharisees. I would have rejected the advice if in my heart If didnt want the relationship anymore, but we had a kid and I needed it to work. 4 They crush people with unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger to ease the burden. WebSecond, it is Fundamental. The Trinity: Southern Baptists believe in only one God who reveals himself as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit. I had no idea that I, as an IFB, might be guilty of these things. If you believe that going to (or sending your child to) a college thats not approved by the IFB (e.g., Bob Jones University, Pensacola Bible College, Baptist Bible College, Hyles Anderson College, Tennessee Temple University) will cause you (or your child) to become worldly or will provide an undue worldly influence on you (or your child), you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 29. This is assuming that the parable of the prodigal son is some kind of instruction on how to deal with a troubled child We did 2 weeks of counseling and got married at the end of our last session. I will cut to the chase: my Pastor and his wife took a much needed vacation a few years ago. Baptist Churches Since 1975 Are From the Ministry of a Man of Whom it Has Been Said: You are probably the most childish acting preacher I came to get a few laughs but it sounds like you were really hurt by some church growing up. Scofield Bible!!!! 11. Pastor and his wife paid for reception, photographers, and and shower. If you believe that declining to spank your child is the equivalent to spoiling him/her, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist Believing its a sin is one thing, believing its an unforgivable sin is another. I did read it but I still dont understand their beliefs on it.. We believe in the bodily resurrection of all men, the saved to eternal life, and the unsaved to judgment and everlasting punishment (Matthew 25:46; John 5:28, 29, 11:25-26; Revelation 20:5-6, 12-13). Jesus forgave me and Im going to choose to forgive others regardless if they want it. Quite the contrary, I was searching for something else when I clicked on this link, so I didnt then and dont now come looking to argue. What is a Bible Baptist Church, and what do Bible Baptists believe. Hes a different man today thanks to Gods grace in our life. 50. If you look down on people who are divorced, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 38. I want to respond to your #30. If you believe women shouldnt wear pants, you might be an Independent Fundamental Baptist, 12. All Catholics will not go to heaven is absolutely wrong. Me preferring the Kjv bible and believing its the inspired word of God is not incorrect. Please read this article for more information: https://baptistdeception.com/reasons-for-not-accepting-the-kjv-as-gods-preserved-word-a-response-to-pastor-james-melton/, I hope that you left your church in good terms and that they knew how you felt and whoever was wrong to be revived and allow the precense [sic] of God to bring the individual to the norm in other words what christian ought to be not what men want to be.. What Jesus did on the cross is for our salvation. Hey there. 51. I did learn a lot. What is the Baptist Church, and what do Baptists believe? (Job 3:16; Psalm 51:5; 139:14-16; Isaiah 44:24; 49:1, 5; Jeremiah 1:5; 20:15-18; Luke 1:44), We believe that God has ordained and created all authority which consists of three basic institutions: (1) the home, (2) the church, and (3) the state. Looks like youve forgotten to include haircuts (length and style of hair). The Baptist Distinctives are easy to remember using the acronym B.A.P.T.I.S.T.S. We wanted Gods blessing of Mariage. The True Church: The doctrine of a believer's church is a key belief in Baptist life.